Ought to the group of 5 begin their very own four-team faculty soccer playoffs?


The College Football Playoff Committee appears poised to turn down another Group 5 motion.

That appears to be the case in 2020 after the State of Iowa jumped No. 7 (8-2) in third rankings on Tuesday ahead of Cincinnati No. 8 (8-0). The Bearcats from the American Athletic Conference are the top ranked group of 5 teams. But there seems to be a slim chance they can crack the top four teams.

Sporting News' Bill Bender and Mike DeCourcy have two very different ideas about what the Group of Five should do about it – including the potential for a separate four-team playoff.

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Let's discuss:

BILL BENDER: "If you can't get a deserving Cincinnati team into the playoffs – and they aren't – it's time to think about giving these teams a reward that isn't a New Year's Bowl against the third-best team." from the SEC or an Alphabet Soup Bowl against a mismatched Group 5 opponent: Give them their own national championship. So I'm going to submit the G5 playoffs. Cincinnati versus Buffalo, Coastal Carolina versus Marshall. The winner will receive a trophy and the ratings and revenue will be much better for the bowl system. If the playoffs ever accept a Group 6 team – and they won't – that school could reject the G5 playoffs. Who says no "

MIKE DECOURCY: "The NCAA sponsors a championship like this. It's called the NCAA Division I Football Championship. We know it as the FCS. The people of North Dakota love it. Everyone else seems to want it. Since they first held this championship in 1978, they've been champions." Like these. As Georgia Southern, Boise State, Marshall, Massachusetts, Western Kentucky, and Appalachian State all gave up "1-AA" in preparation for the big time. So does Old Dominion, Arkansas State, Buffalo, Florida Atlantic. Oh, and Coastal Carolina, a name you must be familiar with.

I could go on but what is it about? It's obvious that Cincinnati, BYU, and San Jose State don't want anything to do with it. Because even though it's a championship they could win, it's not the championship they want. They are part of the FBS structure because they want to be there. Nobody forced Charlotte to play at this level. It was a choice. "

BENDER: "A choice that has done the same thing for eight teams since 1998. Tulane (1998), Marshall (1999), Utah (2004, 2008), Boise State (2006, 2009) and TCU (2010) stayed either before or after unbeaten during the BCS era. The Utes and Horned Frogs took advantage of this to advance to the Power 5 – and they are still struggling to make the playoffs in a good season. UCF (2017) went undefeated twice and failed to make the playoffs It is a disservice to the players and the alum of these schools to dangle the illusion of a playoff berth that isn't taking place. The tradeoff is to give them something more to play with. Why is a G5 playoff with four teams so bad? "

SHORT: "If you give me broccoli, it's definitely good for my health: No fat. Almost no calories. Lots of fiber. A ton of vitamin C and vitamin K.

I will not eat it. Smells and tastes awful, at least to me. This is the position you come across when trying to convince the group of 5 programs that they need their own mastery. What they need and what they want is a reasonable way to get access to a legitimate college football playoff.

They don't understand that now. Because the CFP isn't really a playoff; It's an invitation. You can try calling this broccoli "French silk pie," but it's still broccoli. If the CFP committee places Iowa State in your CFP rankings with an 8-2 record and a loss to Louisiana in front of an undefeated Cincinnati team, it is neither clear nor reasonable.

If the playoffs were structured to guarantee an eighth place for the best of the group of 5 teams, you would likely find great acceptance among them. "

BENDER: "Maybe this happens across the board, but in the current structure the endgame is the same for a Group 5 school. A consolation prize for Day 6 of the New Year. I go back to last weekend's game against BYU and Coastal Carolina . Great game. Maybe the game of the year. It felt like a second round tournament game between Saint Mary & # 39; s and Xavier. You can watch and be entertained, but in the end there is an acceptance that these teams don't play for the national title Just sport (maybe?) where half the field doesn't stand a chance before kick-off. They need something else to play for. "

SHORT: "By agreeing to their own playoffs, the G5 teams would effectively be giving up the pursuit of what they really want. For them, a place in the Orange Bowl or Fiesta against a Power 5 opponent is an opportunity to gain legitimacy – with the Public and the recruits.

You don't want to sit at the children's table for this party. They fought hard to obtain or maintain this status. I covered Cincinnati football at a time when they needed to be "creative" with their attendance levels to ensure they stayed at the Division I top level. Then Brian Kelly came along and took the players Mark Dantonio and some of his recruited players with him, stood up and made the Bearcats a force in the sport that continues today, over a decade later.

They're not Alabama or Clemson, but neither are most of the SEC and ACC. But they don't want to be Delaware. You have chosen to compete at the highest level. Everything else is a step backwards. "

BENDER: “I've seen my alma mater grow into a permanent program under Frank Solich, and I've seen Ohio win the Bahamas, Frisco, and Famous Idaho Potato Bowls for the past three seasons. Cant wait for them making a bowl for New Years Day 6 – This would be the same as the Sweet 16's appearance in the 2012 NCAA tournament, however I want the Bobcats to have a real chance at a national championship, a group of playoffs would offer this now and an insurance policy finish when the Power 5 always crashes and does his own thing. Maybe an eight-team playoff will offer that opportunity. I still have my doubts. "

SHORT: "If that's what you want, then I would suggest you call the fine folks at OU and try to get them to go to FCS. They made a choice to stay where they are for decades and they have some wonderfully successful ones spawned teams.

However, if you want to be the state of North Dakota, the opportunity is certainly there for you. Funny thing: for all of the app states, Boise states, and Georgia states that have made an effort to play at the highest level, I can't remember any program that chose to go down a level for a trophy to win. "


Melinda Martin